tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post421430869536818794..comments2023-05-08T01:40:59.721+10:00Comments on Heady Brew: Hiding behind belief?Kerry Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03051264598690393719noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-12309797721408992662012-03-01T20:19:40.644+11:002012-03-01T20:19:40.644+11:00Sport, is more important to most people than relig...Sport, is more important to most people than religion or non religion.stuart mawbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03666404095446453825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-80310961970750853092012-03-01T20:11:10.123+11:002012-03-01T20:11:10.123+11:00I think it describes the majority of people includ...I think it describes the majority of people including atheists. Many atheists I know, give evolutionary reasons not to be liberal to gays for example. Not all atheists are clear thinkers or liberal thinkers.<br /><br />I doubt the results of that poll would be repeated in Afghanistan or even India, if they were asked about the influence of islam or hinduism. That results of that Poll would only relate to the UK, or perhaps the first world and probably not the USA, lol.stuart mawbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03666404095446453825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-4654738181606254412012-03-01T01:50:09.663+11:002012-03-01T01:50:09.663+11:00Well, god is a fiction in the sense that no two pe...Well, god is a fiction in the sense that no two people can seem to agree on what this term actually means, what it actually describes. It's one of those very fuzzy notions that when examined often boils down to a sense of awe and wonder about life and the universe. The religious tend to go one step farther and assign a potential for some kind of hidden agency to it. That would be fine... right up until stuff here is affected by various assumptions about cause and effect, purpose and meaning, obedience and piety to this unknown, unknowable agency. <i>Then</i> we get into all kinds of problems.tildebhttp://questionablemotives.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-35285000883936311392012-03-01T01:39:45.923+11:002012-03-01T01:39:45.923+11:00Stuart, I think you have just described the majori...Stuart, I think you have just described the majority of 'the faithful' in all religions ... if <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/articles/644942-rdfrs-uk-ipsos-mori-poll-2-uk-christians-oppose-special-influence-for-religion-in-public-policy" rel="nofollow">this poll</a> out of Britain is any indication.<br /><br />It's a very loose identity but one that is used by various religious organizations to pretend their mouthpieces are backed by huge number of supportive people when, in fact, many of those people reject much of the mouthpieces tell us is widely believed.tildebhttp://questionablemotives.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-85512175662670569562012-02-29T22:23:43.321+11:002012-02-29T22:23:43.321+11:00Dear Kerry a fabulous drawing by the way. It's...Dear Kerry a fabulous drawing by the way. It's so cheeky and alive. My friends often surprise by how much they never really think. not that it's always a bad thing. I was very surprised once, after explaining some politics for a friend, that he had never registered to vote and couldn't comprehend preferential voting. religion or even philosophy are not Important to them. They are happy to often repeat what they might read in the telegraph or see on current affair, and think it is gospel. They aren't stupid, they are preoccupied with their lives and thei families and their work.<br />When it comes to religion, they will baptize their children, marry and probably have a church funeral, but those are the main times they will enter a church. It seems to be totally irrevelant to them.stuart mawbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03666404095446453825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-69637783990712788532012-02-29T20:39:42.978+11:002012-02-29T20:39:42.978+11:00Stu,
If God is real, he's not doing to disapp...Stu,<br /><br />If God is real, he's not doing to disappear if we dare to question. If he's not real, then there's nothing "ultimate" about either him/her or the Scriptures. <br /><br />Your "non-thinking" friends might surprise you... and what does any institutional church "standard" have to do with what is real, anyway? They are specific minority cultures - even within the broad scope of official "Christianity". (Well, perhaps within Christendom they are not so minor - but certainly two of many different communities.Kerry Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03051264598690393719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-80952703931685371532012-02-29T19:53:58.046+11:002012-02-29T19:53:58.046+11:00Perhaps the ultimate fiction is God, followed by t...Perhaps the ultimate fiction is God, followed by the scriptures. That's worth thinking about.<br /><br />For my part, most of my friends aren't church goers. Some are. Sure many of my friends would call themselves Christians. They wouldn't measure up to any AOG or any Evangelical standard though.<br /><br />Basically they don't think too hard about religion. Frankly a lot of my friends try not to think too hard ever - they've got better things to do than navel gaze - families to keep - jobs to do.stuart mawbeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03666404095446453825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-41717488515875801982012-02-29T14:11:39.187+11:002012-02-29T14:11:39.187+11:00Here's a question, Adrian - are all of those p...Here's a question, Adrian - are all of those people "churchgoers", or even "Christians"? Why or why not??Kerry Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03051264598690393719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-69369324500012288222012-02-29T14:08:35.353+11:002012-02-29T14:08:35.353+11:00Oh I'm with you on that, Adrian!!Oh I'm with you on that, Adrian!!Kerry Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03051264598690393719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253824019426659573.post-67476131072593522642012-02-29T14:07:38.389+11:002012-02-29T14:07:38.389+11:00I don't know that I've ever been a part of...I don't know that I've ever been a part of a Christian institution that I've been comfortable with discarding my personal fictions. However, I have definitely met people and am friends with people who I'm comfortable doing that around. And that is exactly what I define as a church.Adrian W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06636516340918974103noreply@blogger.com